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U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense) / Department of State / Passport and Visa Examining

Job-title file

Passport and Visa Examining

Carry out the duties of this position in support of the agency's public mission.

1,972 employees hold this title in Department of State. Median total compensation for the role is $88,390, below the department median of $133,692.

Employees
1,972
Total payroll
$168.2M
Role median
$88,390
Agency median
$133,692
Comparison
Below

What the records show

Role pay distribution

Pay distribution for this role

$0$143,150+

Hover a bar for its range; click to filter the list below.

How total compensation varies among the 1,972 people in this role. Even for one job title, pay differs with seniority, step, overtime, and tenure. Each bar is a pay range; the far-right bar collects the highest earners.

Compared with the local labor market

Passport and Visa Examining pay vs. the United States

Across all employers in the United States, the median wage for Information and Record Clerks, All Other — about 134,920 people — is $49,500. Department of State pays a median base salary of $88,281 for this role, 78% above that figureabove the 90th percentile of local pay for the occupation.

Where Department of State sits in the local pay range

10th
25th
Median
75th
90th
$33,870
$40,910
$49,500
$59,970
$71,420
Department of State median · $88,281

The bar is the range of annual wages for Information and Record Clerks, All Other across every employer in the United States, from the 10th to the 90th percentile, with the middle 50% highlighted. The marker shows Department of State’s median base salary for this role. Both figures are base pay only.

Computed over the 1,968 of 1,972 people in this role paid at least $25,000in base salary. The rest are part-year or part-time records, whose actual pay isn’t comparable to a full-time annual wage.

Median total compensation for this role at Department of State is $88,390, which includes overtime and employer-paid benefits. The benchmark above excludes both, so total compensation is deliberately not compared against it.

Benchmark: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics (May 2025). BLS Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics (OEWS) covers all employers in the area — private, non-profit, and government alike — so this is a comparison against the whole local labor market for the occupation, not against private-sector pay. OEWS wages are straight-time pay and exclude overtime, shift differentials, and employer-paid benefits, so the government figure shown here is base pay on the same basis. Total compensation is not comparable to it. Job titles are matched to the closest standard occupation, so the comparison is between similar work rather than an identical job classification.

Compare departments

This role across U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense)

Passport and Visa Examining is held in 4 U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense) departments. In Department of State, the median of $88,390 ranks #2 of 4.

Highest-paying departments for this role

Median total compensation for the Passport and Visa Examining role in other U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense)departments (highest first). Each bar links to that department’s page for this role.

Record list

Employees with this title

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Lee Greene

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$74,586
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,586
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$2,000
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$74,586
Pay grade
09
Work city
Philadelphia
Work county
Philadelphia
Work state
Pennsylvania

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,586
Basic Pay (before locality)
$56,465
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
426540101
Length of Service (Years)
32
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Lee Greene holds the role of Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. In 2024, their total compensation was $74,586. Their pay grade is 09.

Karyos Tyus

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$74,454
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,054
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$2,400
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$74,454
Pay grade
09
Work city
Los Angeles
Work county
Los Angeles
Work state
California

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,054
Basic Pay (before locality)
$53,043
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
061980037
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

At Department of State, Karyos Tyus serves as a Passport and Visa Examining based in Los Angeles, California. Their 2024 pay totaled $74,454. They are classified at grade 09.

Anthony Gamboni

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,971
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,971
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,971
Pay grade
09
Work city
Minneapolis
Work county
Hennepin
Work state
Minnesota

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,971
Basic Pay (before locality)
$58,176
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
274760053
Length of Service (Years)
15
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Anthony Gamboni is a Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Minneapolis, Minnesota. 2024 total compensation came to $73,971. They are classified at grade 09.

Lourdes Klein

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,971
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,971
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,971
Pay grade
09
Work city
Minneapolis
Work county
Hennepin
Work state
Minnesota

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,971
Basic Pay (before locality)
$58,176
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
274760053
Length of Service (Years)
7
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Lourdes Klein works as a Passport and Visa Examining for Department of State based in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Lourdes earned $73,971 in 2024. Their pay grade is 09.

Eduardo Benitez

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,858
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,858
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,858
Pay grade
11
Work city
Tucson
Work county
Pima
Work state
Arizona

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,858
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
040530019
Length of Service (Years)
7
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Eduardo Benitez works as a Passport and Visa Examining for Department of State based in Tucson, Arizona. Eduardo earned $73,858 in 2024. Their pay grade is 11.

Ryan Tanaka

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,858
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,858
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,858
Pay grade
11
Work city
Tucson
Work county
Pima
Work state
Arizona

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,858
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
040530019
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Ryan Tanaka works as a Passport and Visa Examining for Department of State based in Tucson, Arizona. Ryan earned $73,858 in 2024. Their pay grade is 11.

Seth Eggebeen

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,858
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,858
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,858
Pay grade
11
Work city
Tucson
Work county
Pima
Work state
Arizona

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,858
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
040530019
Length of Service (Years)
3
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Seth Eggebeen is a Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Tucson, Arizona. 2024 total compensation came to $73,858. They are classified at grade 11.

Cudel Perez

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,858
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,858
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,858
Pay grade
11
Work city
Tucson
Work county
Pima
Work state
Arizona

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,858
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
040530019
Length of Service (Years)
3
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Cudel Perez is a Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Tucson, Arizona. 2024 total compensation came to $73,858. They are classified at grade 11.

Mark Ramsay

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,858
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,858
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,858
Pay grade
11
Work city
Tucson
Work county
Pima
Work state
Arizona

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,858
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
040530019
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Mark Ramsay is a Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Tucson, Arizona. 2024 total compensation came to $73,858. They are classified at grade 11.

Andrew Fryer

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,858
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,858
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,858
Pay grade
11
Work city
Tucson
Work county
Pima
Work state
Arizona

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,858
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
040530019
Length of Service (Years)
4
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Andrew Fryer works as a Passport and Visa Examining for Department of State based in Tucson, Arizona. Andrew earned $73,858 in 2024. Their pay grade is 11.

Joshua Reyes-Cruz

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,858
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,858
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,858
Pay grade
11
Work city
Tucson
Work county
Pima
Work state
Arizona

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,858
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
040530019
Length of Service (Years)
4
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Joshua Reyes-Cruz works as a Passport and Visa Examining for Department of State based in Tucson, Arizona. Joshua earned $73,858 in 2024. Their pay grade is 11.

Rose De La Cruz

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$73,499
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$73,499
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$73,499
Pay grade
07
Work city
Houston
Work county
Harris
Work state
Texas

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$73,499
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,557
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
483280201
Length of Service (Years)
15
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Rose De La Cruz is a Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Houston, Texas. 2024 total compensation came to $73,499. They are classified at grade 07.

Gina Boera

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,965
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,965
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,965
Pay grade
09
Work city
Washington
Work county
District of Columbia
Work state
District of Columbia

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,965
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,754
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
110010001
Length of Service (Years)
5
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

At Department of State, Gina Boera serves as a Passport and Visa Examining based in Washington, District of Columbia. Their 2024 pay totaled $72,965. They are classified at grade 09.

Bo-Me Kim

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,965
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,965
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,965
Pay grade
09
Work city
Washington
Work county
District of Columbia
Work state
District of Columbia

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,965
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,754
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
110010001
Length of Service (Years)
10
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Bo-Me Kim holds the role of Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Washington, District of Columbia. In 2024, their total compensation was $72,965. Their pay grade is 09.

Anthony Grossi

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,965
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,965
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,965
Pay grade
09
Work city
Washington
Work county
District of Columbia
Work state
District of Columbia

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,965
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,754
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
110010001
Length of Service (Years)
6
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

At Department of State, Anthony Grossi serves as a Passport and Visa Examining based in Washington, District of Columbia. Their 2024 pay totaled $72,965. They are classified at grade 09.

Lauren Sanderson

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,803
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,553
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$250
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,803
Pay grade
11
Work city
Charleston
Work county
Charleston
Work state
South Carolina

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,553
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
450410019
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Lauren Sanderson is a Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Charleston, South Carolina. 2024 total compensation came to $72,803. They are classified at grade 11.

Daniel Ford

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,738
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,738
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,738
Pay grade
09
Work city
Detroit
Work county
Wayne
Work state
Michigan

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,738
Basic Pay (before locality)
$56,465
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
261260163
Length of Service (Years)
17
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Daniel Ford holds the role of Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Detroit, Michigan. In 2024, their total compensation was $72,738. Their pay grade is 09.

Erin Hagengruber

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,703
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,703
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,703
Pay grade
07
Work city
Washington
Work county
District of Columbia
Work state
District of Columbia

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,703
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,557
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
110010001
Length of Service (Years)
4
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Erin Hagengruber works as a Passport and Visa Examining for Department of State based in Washington, District of Columbia. Erin earned $72,703 in 2024. Their pay grade is 07.

Timothy Hartford

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,703
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,703
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,703
Pay grade
07
Work city
Washington
Work county
District of Columbia
Work state
District of Columbia

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,703
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,557
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
110010001
Length of Service (Years)
6
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

At Department of State, Timothy Hartford serves as a Passport and Visa Examining based in Washington, District of Columbia. Their 2024 pay totaled $72,703. They are classified at grade 07.

David Lusane

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,703
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,703
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,703
Pay grade
07
Work city
Washington
Work county
District of Columbia
Work state
District of Columbia

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,703
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,557
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
110010001
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

David Lusane holds the role of Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Washington, District of Columbia. In 2024, their total compensation was $72,703. Their pay grade is 07.

Owen Bates

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,553
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,553
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,553
Pay grade
11
Work city
Charleston
Work county
Charleston
Work state
South Carolina

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,553
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
450410019
Length of Service (Years)
4
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

At Department of State, Owen Bates serves as a Passport and Visa Examining based in Charleston, South Carolina. Their 2024 pay totaled $72,553. They are classified at grade 11.

Rayshaw Alston

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,553
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,553
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,553
Pay grade
11
Work city
Charleston
Work county
Charleston
Work state
South Carolina

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,553
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
450410019
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Rayshaw Alston works as a Passport and Visa Examining for Department of State based in Charleston, South Carolina. Rayshaw earned $72,553 in 2024. Their pay grade is 11.

Adriana Jurado

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,553
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,553
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,553
Pay grade
11
Work city
El Paso
Work county
El Paso
Work state
Texas

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,553
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
482190141
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Adriana Jurado is a Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in El Paso, Texas. 2024 total compensation came to $72,553. They are classified at grade 11.

Marcella Lablue

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,553
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,553
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,553
Pay grade
11
Work city
Charleston
Work county
Charleston
Work state
South Carolina

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,553
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
450410019
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

At Department of State, Marcella Lablue serves as a Passport and Visa Examining based in Charleston, South Carolina. Their 2024 pay totaled $72,553. They are classified at grade 11.

Kelsey Lievens

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,553
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,553
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,553
Pay grade
11
Work county
Hot Spring
Work state
Arkansas

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,553
Basic Pay (before locality)
$62,107
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
050000059
Length of Service (Years)
3
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

At Department of State, Kelsey Lievens serves as a Passport and Visa Examining based in Arkansas. Their 2024 pay totaled $72,553. They are classified at grade 11.

Justin Fuentes-Keuthan

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$72,259
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$72,259
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,259
Pay grade
09
Work city
Portsmouth
Work county
Rockingham
Work state
New Hampshire

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,259
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,754
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
330430015
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Justin Fuentes-Keuthan holds the role of Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. In 2024, their total compensation was $72,259. Their pay grade is 09.

Samuel Kirkendall

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$71,999
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$71,999
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$71,999
Pay grade
07
Work city
Portsmouth
Work county
Rockingham
Work state
New Hampshire

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$71,999
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,557
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
330430015
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Samuel Kirkendall works as a Passport and Visa Examining for Department of State based in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Samuel earned $71,999 in 2024. Their pay grade is 07.

Tammy Dyer

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$71,999
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$71,999
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$71,999
Pay grade
07
Work city
Portsmouth
Work county
Rockingham
Work state
New Hampshire

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$71,999
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,557
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
330430015
Length of Service (Years)
0
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Tammy Dyer holds the role of Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. In 2024, their total compensation was $71,999. Their pay grade is 07.

Catherine Borjal

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$71,624
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$71,624
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$71,624
Pay grade
09
Work city
Seattle
Work county
King
Work state
Washington

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$71,624
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,754
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
531960033
Length of Service (Years)
18
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Catherine Borjal holds the role of Passport and Visa Examining at Department of State based in Seattle, Washington. In 2024, their total compensation was $71,624. Their pay grade is 09.

Weedor Gorlorwulu

Passport and Visa Examining/Department of State

2024 total comp
$71,624
Sub-department
Department of State
Base pay
$71,624
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$71,624
Pay grade
09
Work city
Seattle
Work county
King
Work state
Washington

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$71,624
Basic Pay (before locality)
$54,754
Country
United States
Duty Station Code
531960033
Length of Service (Years)
7
Occupation Code (OPM)
0967
Pay Plan (OPM)
GS

Weedor Gorlorwulu works as a Passport and Visa Examining for Department of State based in Seattle, Washington. Weedor earned $71,624 in 2024. Their pay grade is 09.