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U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense) / National Aeronautics and Space Administration / Paralegal Specialist

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Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration, U.S. Federal Government

Provide legal advice, draft and review documents, and represent the agency in legal matters.

25 employees hold this title in National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Median total compensation for the role is $103,394, below the department median of $153,821.

Employees
25
Total payroll
$2.6M
Role median
$103,394
Agency median
$153,821
Comparison
Below

What the records show

Role pay distribution

Pay distribution for this role

$72,826$128,443+

Hover a bar for its range; click to filter the list below.

How total compensation varies among the 25 people in this role. Even for one job title, pay differs with seniority, step, overtime, and tenure. Each bar is a pay range; the far-right bar collects the highest earners.

Compared with the local labor market

Paralegal Specialist pay vs. the United States

Across all employers in the United States, the median wage for Paralegals and Legal Assistants — about 392,880 people — is $62,890. National Aeronautics and Space Administration pays a median base salary of $103,394 for this role, 64% above that figure — above the 90th percentile of local pay for the occupation.

Where National Aeronautics and Space Administration sits in the local pay range

10th
25th
Median
75th
90th
$44,740
$50,340
$62,890
$80,080
$101,500
National Aeronautics and Space Administration median · $103,394

The bar is the range of annual wages for Paralegals and Legal Assistants across every employer in the United States, from the 10th to the 90th percentile, with the middle 50% highlighted. The marker shows National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s median base salary for this role. Both figures are base pay only.

Median total compensation for this role at National Aeronautics and Space Administration is $103,394, which includes overtime and employer-paid benefits. The benchmark above excludes both, so total compensation is deliberately not compared against it.

Benchmark: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics (May 2025). BLS Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics (OEWS) covers all employers in the area — private, non-profit, and government alike — so this is a comparison against the whole local labor market for the occupation, not against private-sector pay. OEWS wages are straight-time pay and exclude overtime, shift differentials, and employer-paid benefits, so the government figure shown here is base pay on the same basis. Total compensation is not comparable to it. Job titles are matched to the closest standard occupation, so the comparison is between similar work rather than an identical job classification.

Compare departments

This role across U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense)

Paralegal Specialist is held in 57 U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense) departments. In National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the median of $103,394 ranks #36 of 57.

Highest-paying departments for this role

Median total compensation for the Paralegal Specialist role in other U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense)departments (highest first). Each bar links to that department’s page for this role.

Compare jurisdictions

Paralegal Specialist beyond U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense)

This role is reported in 4 jurisdictions. In U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense), the median of $101,918 ranks #2 of 4. See Paralegal Specialist across all of U.S. Federal Government (non-Defense) →

Highest-paying jurisdictions for this role

Connecticut
$148,330 · 8
Florida
$44,437 · 405

Median total compensation for comparable Paralegal Specialist roles in other jurisdictions. Titles are matched by normalized name across sources, not identical job classification, and pay is not cost-of-living adjusted. Each bar links to that jurisdiction’s page for the role.

Same department

Other job titles in National Aeronautics and Space Administration

Record list

Employees with this title

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Milelene Gunyon

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$133,942
Sub-department
Goddard Space Flight Center
Base pay
$133,142
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$800
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$133,942
Pay grade
12
Work city
Greenbelt
Work state
Maryland

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$133,142
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN51
Basic Pay (before locality)
$99,404
Duty Station Code
240710033
Duty Station State
MD
Length of Service (Years)
35
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

At National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Milelene Gunyon serves as a Paralegal Specialist based in Greenbelt, Maryland. Their 2026 pay totaled $133,942. They are classified at grade 12.

Lisa Hughes

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$122,486
Sub-department
George C. Marshall Space Flight Center
Base pay
$119,986
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$2,500
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$122,486
Pay grade
12
Work city
Redstone Arsenal
Work state
Alabama
Middle name
R

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$119,986
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN62
Basic Pay (before locality)
$98,422
Duty Station Code
012585089
Duty Station State
AL
Length of Service (Years)
39
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Lisa Hughes works as a Paralegal Specialist for National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Redstone Arsenal, Alabama. Lisa earned $122,486 in 2025. Their pay grade is 12.

Carolyn Johnson

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$121,684
Sub-department
Headquarters, Nasa
Base pay
$121,684
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$121,684
Pay grade
12
Work city
Washington
Work state
District of Columbia
Middle name
L

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$121,684
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN10
Basic Pay (before locality)
$90,850
Duty Station Code
110010001
Duty Station State
DC
Length of Service (Years)
40
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Carolyn Johnson holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Washington, District of Columbia. In 2025, their total compensation was $121,684. Their pay grade is 12.

Annette Metcalf

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$121,183
Sub-department
George C. Marshall Space Flight Center
Base pay
$121,183
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$121,183
Pay grade
12
Work city
Redstone Arsenal
Work state
Alabama
Middle name
M

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$121,183
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN62
Basic Pay (before locality)
$99,404
Duty Station Code
012585089
Duty Station State
AL
Length of Service (Years)
34
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Annette Metcalf holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Redstone Arsenal, Alabama. In 2026, their total compensation was $121,183. Their pay grade is 12.

Victor Robinson

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$118,304
Sub-department
Headquarters, Nasa
Base pay
$118,304
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$118,304
Pay grade
12
Work city
Washington
Work state
District of Columbia
Middle name
Thelonious

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$118,304
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN10
Basic Pay (before locality)
$88,326
Duty Station Code
110010001
Duty Station State
DC
Length of Service (Years)
17
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Victor Robinson works as a Paralegal Specialist for National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Washington, District of Columbia. Victor earned $118,304 in 2025. Their pay grade is 12.

Ginger Arrington

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$118,027
Sub-department
John F. Kennedy Space Center
Base pay
$117,227
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$800
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$118,027
Pay grade
12
Work city
Kennedy Space Center
Work state
Florida
Middle name
L F

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$117,227
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN76
Basic Pay (before locality)
$99,404
Duty Station Code
121567009
Duty Station State
FL
Length of Service (Years)
34
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Ginger Arrington holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Kennedy Space Center, Florida. In 2026, their total compensation was $118,027. Their pay grade is 12.

Elaine Mcmahon

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$117,325
Sub-department
Langley Research Center
Base pay
$116,925
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$400
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$117,325
Pay grade
12
Work city
Hampton
Work state
Virginia
Middle name
C

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$116,925
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN23
Basic Pay (before locality)
$98,422
Duty Station Code
511180650
Duty Station State
VA
Length of Service (Years)
34
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Elaine Mcmahon works as a Paralegal Specialist for National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Hampton, Virginia. Elaine earned $117,325 in 2025. Their pay grade is 12.

Penny Chambers

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$116,069
Sub-department
John F. Kennedy Space Center
Base pay
$116,069
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$116,069
Pay grade
12
Work city
Kennedy Space Center
Work state
Florida
Middle name
L

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$116,069
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN76
Basic Pay (before locality)
$98,422
Duty Station Code
121567009
Duty Station State
FL
Length of Service (Years)
42
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

At National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Penny Chambers serves as a Paralegal Specialist based in Kennedy Space Center, Florida. Their 2025 pay totaled $116,069. They are classified at grade 12.

Karen Ault

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2024 total comp
$115,042
Sub-department
John Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field
Base pay
$115,042
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$115,042
Pay grade
12
Work city
Brook Park
Work state
Ohio
Middle name
A.

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$115,042
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN22
Basic Pay (before locality)
$94,289
Duty Station Code
391050035
Duty Station State
OH
Length of Service (Years)
40
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Karen Ault holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Brook Park, Ohio. In 2024, their total compensation was $115,042. Their pay grade is 12.

Julie Reynoso

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$113,549
Sub-department
Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
Base pay
$113,549
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$113,549
Pay grade
12
Work city
Houston
Work state
Texas
Middle name
Ann

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$113,549
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN72
Basic Pay (before locality)
$84,110
Duty Station Code
483280201
Duty Station State
TX
Length of Service (Years)
8
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Julie Reynoso works as a Paralegal Specialist for National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Houston, Texas. Julie earned $113,549 in 2026. Their pay grade is 12.

Rhonda Moss

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$111,543
Sub-department
Headquarters, Nasa
Base pay
$111,543
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$111,543
Pay grade
12
Work city
Washington
Work state
District of Columbia
Middle name
R

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$111,543
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN10
Basic Pay (before locality)
$83,278
Duty Station Code
110010001
Duty Station State
DC
Length of Service (Years)
41
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Rhonda Moss works as a Paralegal Specialist for National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Washington, District of Columbia. Rhonda earned $111,543 in 2025. Their pay grade is 12.

Anetra Tucker

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$106,529
Sub-department
Goddard Space Flight Center
Base pay
$105,829
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$700
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$106,529
Pay grade
12
Work city
Greenbelt
Work state
Maryland
Middle name
M.

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$105,829
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN51
Basic Pay (before locality)
$79,012
Duty Station Code
240710033
Duty Station State
MD
Length of Service (Years)
34
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Anetra Tucker is a Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Greenbelt, Maryland. 2026 total compensation came to $106,529. They are classified at grade 12.

Diane Sims

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$103,394
Sub-department
John C. Stennis Space Center
Base pay
$103,394
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$103,394
Pay grade
12
Work city
Stennis Space Center
Work state
Mississippi
Middle name
M

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$103,394
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN64
Basic Pay (before locality)
$88,326
Duty Station Code
282447045
Duty Station State
MS
Length of Service (Years)
26
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Diane Sims holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Stennis Space Center, Mississippi. In 2025, their total compensation was $103,394. Their pay grade is 12.

Krissen Burriss

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$102,415
Sub-department
Goddard Space Flight Center
Base pay
$102,415
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$102,415
Pay grade
12
Work city
Greenbelt
Work state
Maryland
Middle name
Lee

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$102,415
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN51
Basic Pay (before locality)
$76,463
Duty Station Code
240710033
Duty Station State
MD
Length of Service (Years)
19
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Krissen Burriss works as a Paralegal Specialist for National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Greenbelt, Maryland. Krissen earned $102,415 in 2026. Their pay grade is 12.

Yvette Mardis

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$99,634
Sub-department
Langley Research Center
Base pay
$98,934
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$700
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$99,634
Pay grade
12
Work city
Hampton
Work state
Virginia
Middle name
Doris

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$98,934
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN23
Basic Pay (before locality)
$83,278
Duty Station Code
511180650
Duty Station State
VA
Length of Service (Years)
11
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Yvette Mardis holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Hampton, Virginia. In 2025, their total compensation was $99,634. Their pay grade is 12.

Alecea Cabezas Tapia

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$97,074
Sub-department
George C. Marshall Space Flight Center
Base pay
$96,324
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$750
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$97,074
Pay grade
12
Work city
Redstone Arsenal
Work state
Alabama
Middle name
Quintel

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$96,324
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN62
Basic Pay (before locality)
$79,012
Duty Station Code
012585089
Duty Station State
AL
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Alecea Cabezas Tapia works as a Paralegal Specialist for National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Redstone Arsenal, Alabama. Alecea earned $97,074 in 2026. Their pay grade is 12.

Ruth Catan

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$96,328
Sub-department
Headquarters, Nasa
Base pay
$95,878
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$450
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$96,328
Pay grade
11
Work city
Washington
Work state
District of Columbia
Middle name
Heller

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$95,878
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN10
Basic Pay (before locality)
$71,583
Duty Station Code
110010001
Duty Station State
DC
Length of Service (Years)
5
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Ruth Catan holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Washington, District of Columbia. In 2025, their total compensation was $96,328. Their pay grade is 11.

Olivia Acosta

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$90,739
Sub-department
Headquarters, Nasa
Base pay
$90,239
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$500
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$90,739
Pay grade
11
Work city
Washington
Work state
District of Columbia

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$90,239
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN10
Basic Pay (before locality)
$67,373
Duty Station Code
110010001
Duty Station State
DC
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Olivia Acosta is a Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Washington, District of Columbia. 2025 total compensation came to $90,739. They are classified at grade 11.

Jacquelyn Harris

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$87,420
Sub-department
Goddard Space Flight Center
Base pay
$87,420
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$87,420
Pay grade
11
Work city
Greenbelt
Work state
Maryland
Middle name
Renee

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$87,420
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN51
Basic Pay (before locality)
$65,268
Duty Station Code
240710033
Duty Station State
MD
Length of Service (Years)
11
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Jacquelyn Harris is a Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Greenbelt, Maryland. 2025 total compensation came to $87,420. They are classified at grade 11.

Shawanda Craven

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$87,276
Sub-department
John Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field
Base pay
$85,776
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$1,500
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$87,276
Pay grade
11
Work city
Brook Park
Work state
Ohio
Middle name
Marie

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$85,776
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN22
Basic Pay (before locality)
$70,176
Duty Station Code
391050035
Duty Station State
OH
Length of Service (Years)
4
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Shawanda Craven holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Brook Park, Ohio. In 2026, their total compensation was $87,276. Their pay grade is 11.

Roberto Sepulveda

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$86,067
Sub-department
John F. Kennedy Space Center
Base pay
$85,267
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$800
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$86,067
Pay grade
11
Work city
Kennedy Space Center
Work state
Florida
Middle name
Andres

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$85,267
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN76
Basic Pay (before locality)
$72,303
Duty Station Code
121567009
Duty Station State
FL
Length of Service (Years)
12
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Roberto Sepulveda holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Kennedy Space Center, Florida. In 2026, their total compensation was $86,067. Their pay grade is 11.

Jennifer Jimenezpepen

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$85,776
Sub-department
John Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field
Base pay
$85,776
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$85,776
Pay grade
11
Work city
Brook Park
Work state
Ohio
Middle name
Patricia

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$85,776
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN22
Basic Pay (before locality)
$70,176
Duty Station Code
391050035
Duty Station State
OH
Length of Service (Years)
3
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Jennifer Jimenezpepen is a Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Brook Park, Ohio. 2026 total compensation came to $85,776. They are classified at grade 11.

John Sosebee

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2026 total comp
$83,559
Sub-department
John F. Kennedy Space Center
Base pay
$82,759
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$800
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$83,559
Pay grade
11
Work city
Kennedy Space Center
Work state
Florida
Middle name
Michael

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$82,759
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN76
Basic Pay (before locality)
$70,176
Duty Station Code
121567009
Duty Station State
FL
Length of Service (Years)
27
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

John Sosebee holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Kennedy Space Center, Florida. In 2026, their total compensation was $83,559. Their pay grade is 11.

Jennifer Jimenez-Pepen

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$82,800
Sub-department
John Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field
Base pay
$82,350
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$450
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$82,800
Pay grade
11
Work city
Brook Park
Work state
Ohio
Middle name
Patricia

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$82,350
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN22
Basic Pay (before locality)
$67,373
Duty Station Code
391050035
Duty Station State
OH
Length of Service (Years)
2
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

At National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Jennifer Jimenez-Pepen serves as a Paralegal Specialist based in Brook Park, Ohio. Their 2025 pay totaled $82,800. They are classified at grade 11.

Christopher Smith

Paralegal Specialist/National Aeronautics and Space Administration

2025 total comp
$72,826
Sub-department
Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
Base pay
$72,826
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$72,826
Pay grade
09
Work city
Houston
Work state
Texas
Middle name
John

Source-specific fields

Adjusted Basic Pay (incl. locality)
$72,826
Agency Code (OPM)
NN
Agency Sub-element Code (OPM)
NN72
Basic Pay (before locality)
$53,945
Duty Station Code
483280201
Duty Station State
TX
Length of Service (Years)
1
Occupation Code (OPM)
0950

Christopher Smith holds the role of Paralegal Specialist at National Aeronautics and Space Administration based in Houston, Texas. In 2025, their total compensation was $72,826. Their pay grade is 09.