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CA Health Benefit Exchange

Source file: California — State Employee Compensation (SCO Payroll Data Warehouse, CPRA) / ingested Jul 4, 2026

The CA Health Benefit Exchange oversees public health and medical services — disease prevention, clinics and hospitals, and health licensing and regulation.

In 2025, this agency had 1,517 employees with median total compensation of $71,826; the highest distinct record was $501,320.

Year
2025
Total payroll
$118.2M
Employees
1,517
Median total
$71,826
Highest record
$501,320

What the records show

Compensation analytics

These summaries compare pay within the agency before listing individual records.

Salary distribution

How 2025 total compensation is spread across the 1,517 employees. Each bar is a pay range; taller bars mean more people earn in that range. The amber line marks the median ($71,826) — half earn less, half more. The far-right bar collects the highest earners.

Average pay composition

  • Base$75,090 (96%)
  • Overtime$758 (1%)
  • Other$2,073 (3%)
  • Benefits$0 (0%)

What an average paycheck here is made of — base salary versus overtime, other pay (bonuses, allowances), and benefits. A large overtime or other-pay share means take-home often exceeds base salary.

Pay percentiles

10th
25th
Median
75th
90th
$39,347
$54,602
$71,826
$97,196
$119,007

The pay ladder for this department. Someone at the 90th percentile earns $119,007 — more than 90% of the department; the 10th percentile earns $39,347. The shaded band is the middle half of employees (25th–75th percentile).

Largest job titles

The most common job titles in this department by headcount, with the median total compensation for each. Click a title to see everyone who holds it.

Trend

Year over year

How this department's total payroll, headcount, and median pay changed across the 3 published years.

YearTotal payrollEmployeesMedian pay
2023
$102.1M
1,410
$64,029
2024
$111.7M
9.4%
1,514
7.4%
$66,256
3.5%
2025
$118.2M
5.8%
1,517
0.2%
$71,826
8.4%

Record list

Employees

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Andrea Whiteman

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$50,451
Base pay
$49,851
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$50,451
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
J

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,314
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928339
Salary Total
$4,335
Total Pay
$50,451

Andrea Whiteman is a Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $50,451. They are represented by R04.

Bryan Espinosa

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2023 total comp
$50,372
Base pay
$47,952
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$2,420
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$50,372
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
K

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,183
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928158
Salary Total
$4,333
Total Pay
$50,372

Bryan Espinosa works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Bryan earned $50,372 in 2023. They are represented by R04.

Seung So

Supervising Program Technician III/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$50,278
Base pay
$48,032
Overtime
$365
Other pay
$1,882
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$50,278
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
S04
Work county
Sacramento

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,977
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109926026
Salary Total
$4,518
Total Pay
$50,278

Seung So works as a Supervising Program Technician III for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Seung earned $50,278 in 2025. Their bargaining unit is S04.

Ivie Serrano

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$50,252
Base pay
$49,652
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$50,252
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,226
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928121
Salary Total
$4,249
Total Pay
$50,252

Ivie Serrano is a Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $50,252. Union affiliation: R04.

Gao Moua

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$50,137
Base pay
$46,996
Overtime
$2,542
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$50,137
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
L

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,025
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928194
Salary Total
$4,054
Total Pay
$50,137

At CA Health Benefit Exchange, Gao Moua serves as a Program Technician II. They work full-time. Their 2025 pay totaled $50,137. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Nancy Gonzalez

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$50,137
Base pay
$49,396
Overtime
$141
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$50,137
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,025
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928185
Salary Total
$4,254
Total Pay
$50,137

Nancy Gonzalez is a Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $50,137. Union affiliation: R04.

Kimberly Stadler

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$50,095
Base pay
$49,134
Overtime
$361
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$50,095
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
A

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,659
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928317
Salary Total
$4,454
Total Pay
$50,095

Kimberly Stadler holds the role of Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. In 2025, their total compensation was $50,095. Union affiliation: R04.

Ann Pan

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,996
Base pay
$49,396
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,996
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
X

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,025
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928064
Salary Total
$4,254
Total Pay
$49,996

At CA Health Benefit Exchange, Ann Pan serves as a Program Technician II. They work full-time. Their 2025 pay totaled $49,996. They are represented by R04.

Laura Hadsel

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,980
Base pay
$49,244
Overtime
$137
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,980
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
D

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,660
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928061
Salary Total
$4,670
Total Pay
$49,980

Laura Hadsel is a Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $49,980. They are represented by R04.

Adianez Carvajal

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,957
Base pay
$49,250
Overtime
$107
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,957
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,225
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928025
Salary Total
$4,248
Total Pay
$49,957

Adianez Carvajal works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Adianez earned $49,957 in 2025. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Robin Breault

Office Assistant (Typing)/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,904
Base pay
$49,304
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,904
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
E

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,445
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013101379015
Salary Total
$4,312
Total Pay
$49,904

Robin Breault holds the role of Office Assistant (Typing) at CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. In 2025, their total compensation was $49,904. They are represented by R04.

Jeremy Jackson

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,850
Base pay
$49,250
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,850
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
U

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,225
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928189
Salary Total
$4,248
Total Pay
$49,850

At CA Health Benefit Exchange, Jeremy Jackson serves as a Program Technician II. They work full-time. Their 2025 pay totaled $49,850. They are represented by R04.

Brenda Brill

Accounting Officer (Specialist)/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,792
Base pay
$49,213
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$579
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,792
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R01
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
K

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$5,530
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8011604546011
Salary Total
$5,364
Total Pay
$49,792

Brenda Brill holds the role of Accounting Officer (Specialist) at CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. In 2025, their total compensation was $49,792. Union affiliation: R01.

Freddy Palacios

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,759
Base pay
$48,001
Overtime
$158
Other pay
$1,600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,759
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
M

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,437
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928097
Salary Total
$4,044
Total Pay
$49,759

At CA Health Benefit Exchange, Freddy Palacios serves as a Program Technician II. They work full-time. Their 2025 pay totaled $49,759. They are represented by R04.

Jeanne Ramos

Staff Administrative Analyst -Accounting Systems-/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,672
Base pay
$49,672
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$0
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,672
Employment type
Intermittent
Union / bargaining unit
S01
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
M

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$8,910
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8011605303910
Salary Total
$51
Total Pay
$49,672

Jeanne Ramos is a Staff Administrative Analyst -Accounting Systems- at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work intermittent. 2025 total compensation came to $49,672. Union affiliation: S01.

Eric Tashchyan

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,624
Base pay
$48,763
Overtime
$260
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,624
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
H

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,024
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928305
Salary Total
$4,253
Total Pay
$49,624

Eric Tashchyan works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Eric earned $49,624 in 2025. They are represented by R04.

Josue Santiago Vazquez

Staff Services Analyst/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,623
Base pay
$47,403
Overtime
$1,671
Other pay
$550
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,623
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R01
Work county
Fresno

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,225
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013145157700
Salary Total
$4,098
Total Pay
$49,623

Josue Santiago Vazquez is a Staff Services Analyst at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $49,623. They are represented by R01.

Ibeth Barajas

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,581
Base pay
$48,718
Overtime
$113
Other pay
$750
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,581
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,024
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928312
Salary Total
$4,253
Total Pay
$49,581

Ibeth Barajas works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Ibeth earned $49,581 in 2025. They are represented by R04.

Jeffrey Driscoll

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,566
Base pay
$47,363
Overtime
$1,603
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,566
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
W

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,024
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928137
Salary Total
$4,053
Total Pay
$49,566

Jeffrey Driscoll is a Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $49,566. Union affiliation: R04.

Toni Woods

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,530
Base pay
$47,137
Overtime
$659
Other pay
$1,734
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,530
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,804
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928264
Salary Total
$4,366
Total Pay
$49,530

Toni Woods works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Toni earned $49,530 in 2025. They are represented by R04.

Coleen Barela

Supervising Program Technician III/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,490
Base pay
$48,076
Overtime
$37
Other pay
$1,377
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,490
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
S04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
L

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$5,696
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149926027
Salary Total
$5,412
Total Pay
$49,490

Coleen Barela holds the role of Supervising Program Technician III at CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. In 2025, their total compensation was $49,490. Union affiliation: S04.

Nancy Xiong

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,472
Base pay
$47,363
Overtime
$1,509
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,472
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,024
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928125
Salary Total
$4,053
Total Pay
$49,472

Nancy Xiong is a Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $49,472. They are represented by R04.

Katerina Soto

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,455
Base pay
$47,921
Overtime
$934
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,455
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
P

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,024
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928226
Salary Total
$4,053
Total Pay
$49,455

Katerina Soto holds the role of Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. In 2025, their total compensation was $49,455. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Alicia Dixon

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,315
Base pay
$48,665
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$650
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,315
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
M

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,225
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928093
Salary Total
$4,248
Total Pay
$49,315

At CA Health Benefit Exchange, Alicia Dixon serves as a Program Technician II. They work full-time. Their 2025 pay totaled $49,315. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Darlene Kohaya

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,305
Base pay
$44,170
Overtime
$4,388
Other pay
$746
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,305
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
M

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,804
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928117
Salary Total
$4,810
Total Pay
$49,305

Darlene Kohaya works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Darlene earned $49,305 in 2025. They are represented by R04.

Rebecca Morris

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,133
Base pay
$48,479
Overtime
$53
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,133
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
D

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,225
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928250
Salary Total
$4,248
Total Pay
$49,133

Rebecca Morris works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Rebecca earned $49,133 in 2025. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Ginger Penebaker

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,124
Base pay
$48,524
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,124
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
L

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,659
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928375
Salary Total
$4,669
Total Pay
$49,124

Ginger Penebaker is a Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $49,124. Union affiliation: R04.

Wendy Otasowie

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,079
Base pay
$48,479
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,079
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
A

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,024
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928152
Salary Total
$4,053
Total Pay
$49,079

Wendy Otasowie works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Wendy earned $49,079 in 2025. They are represented by R04.

Summer Otto

Program Technician III/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$49,069
Base pay
$48,469
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$49,069
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
R

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$5,425
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149929015
Salary Total
$4,912
Total Pay
$49,069

Summer Otto holds the role of Program Technician III at CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. In 2025, their total compensation was $49,069. Union affiliation: R04.

John Owens

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$48,971
Base pay
$48,371
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$48,971
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
L

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,804
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928173
Salary Total
$4,810
Total Pay
$48,971

John Owens works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. John earned $48,971 in 2025. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Kimberly Randrup

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$48,901
Base pay
$48,301
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$48,901
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
A

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,804
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928181
Salary Total
$4,810
Total Pay
$48,901

Kimberly Randrup holds the role of Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. In 2025, their total compensation was $48,901. They are represented by R04.

Yvonne Soohoo

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$48,816
Base pay
$48,216
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$48,816
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
C

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,804
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928055
Salary Total
$4,588
Total Pay
$48,816

Yvonne Soohoo works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Yvonne earned $48,816 in 2025. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Blanca Gutierrez

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$48,758
Base pay
$48,195
Overtime
$13
Other pay
$550
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$48,758
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
E

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,226
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928325
Salary Total
$4,449
Total Pay
$48,758

Blanca Gutierrez holds the role of Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. In 2025, their total compensation was $48,758. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Julie Mason

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$48,751
Base pay
$48,251
Overtime
$0
Other pay
$500
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$48,751
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Sacramento
Middle name
L

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,804
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013109928262
Salary Total
$4,810
Total Pay
$48,751

Julie Mason is a Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $48,751. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Crystal Alvarado

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$48,714
Base pay
$46,240
Overtime
$1,874
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$48,714
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
N

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,225
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928176
Salary Total
$4,053
Total Pay
$48,714

Crystal Alvarado works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Crystal earned $48,714 in 2025. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Giovanni Perez

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2025 total comp
$48,711
Base pay
$46,996
Overtime
$1,115
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$48,711
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,025
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928172
Salary Total
$4,054
Total Pay
$48,711

Giovanni Perez is a Program Technician II at CA Health Benefit Exchange. They work full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $48,711. Their bargaining unit is R04.

Kimberly Silva

Program Technician II/CA Health Benefit Exchange

2024 total comp
$48,647
Base pay
$47,922
Overtime
$125
Other pay
$600
Benefits
$0
Total compensation
$48,647
Employment type
Full-Time
Union / bargaining unit
R04
Work county
Fresno
Middle name
B

Source-specific fields

Base Pay
$4,104
Cs/csu
Cs
Position Number
8013149928166
Salary Total
$4,254
Total Pay
$48,647

Kimberly Silva works as a Program Technician II for CA Health Benefit Exchange. Their status is full-time. Kimberly earned $48,647 in 2024. Their bargaining unit is R04.