Natural Resources Department

Sub-department

FOR R2 Two Harbors Asst Staff

Base pay

$34,177

Overtime

$18,859

Other pay

$2,637

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,673

Hire date

2007-06-22

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

60

Union / bargaining unit

Service

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Lake

At Natural Resources Department, Jonah Lewis serves as a Nr Forest Fire Resp Lead within For R2 Two Harbors Assistant Staff. They have served since 2007 (about 18 years), working full-time. Their 2025 pay totaled $55,673. Union affiliation: Service.

Sub-department

F&W Roving Crew-Reg 4

Base pay

$53,277

Overtime

$1,573

Other pay

$802

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,652

Hire date

2022-06-08

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

86

Union / bargaining unit

Craft, Maintenance, Labor

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Chippewa

Parker Schwinghammer works as a Laborer Trades & Equipment for Natural Resources Department within F&W Roving Crew-Reg 4. Their tenure dates to 2022, about 2 years as a full-time employee. Parker earned $55,652 in 2024. Union affiliation: Craft, Maintenance, Labor.

Sub-department

FOR R3 Little Falls Asst Staff

Base pay

$50,726

Overtime

$3,716

Other pay

$1,160

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,603

Hire date

2023-05-22

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

6

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Mille Lacs

Shawna Carr is a Nr Forestry Specialist at Natural Resources Department within For R3 Little Falls Assistant Staff. Their tenure dates to 2023, about 2 years, working full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $55,603. They are represented by MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

OSD HR ES Staffing

Base pay

$55,591

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,591

Hire date

2024-07-31

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

7

Union / bargaining unit

Confidential

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Rebecca Hotop works as a Human Resources Specialist 1 for Natural Resources Department within Osd HR Es Staffing. Hired in 2024, they have about a year of service as a full-time employee. Rebecca earned $55,591 in 2025. They are represented by Confidential.

Sub-department

F&W WLD Section Mgmt

Base pay

$55,143

Overtime

$420

Other pay

$12

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,575

Hire date

2013-05-31

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

64

Union / bargaining unit

Clerical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Brenda Danner works as a Office & Administrative Specialist Senior for Natural Resources Department within F&W Wld Section Management. They have served since 2013 (about 12 years) as a full-time employee. Brenda earned $55,575 in 2025. Their bargaining unit is Clerical.

Sub-department

OSD HR Transactions

Base pay

$55,573

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,573

Hire date

2022-02-22

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

65

Union / bargaining unit

Confidential

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Claudia Marquez-Alcala is a Human Resources Technician 2 at Natural Resources Department within Osd HR Transactions. They have served since 2022 (about 2 years), working full-time. 2024 total compensation came to $55,573. Union affiliation: Confidential.

Sub-department

PAT-R2 Grand Portage Staff

Base pay

$54,046

Overtime

$1,467

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,512

Hire date

2022-11-28

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

7

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Cook

Leland James works as a Interpret Naturalist 2 for Natural Resources Department within Pat-R2 Grand Portage Staff. They have served since 2022 (about 3 years) as a full-time employee. Leland earned $55,512 in 2025. They are represented by MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

WL-R2 Tower Staff

Base pay

$52,455

Overtime

$2,866

Other pay

$51

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,372

Hire date

2023-08-07

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

65

Union / bargaining unit

Technical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

St Louis

Jacob Olson works as a Nr Technician Wildlife for Natural Resources Department within Wl-R2 Tower Staff. They have served since 2023 (about 2 years) as a full-time employee. Jacob earned $55,372 in 2025. Union affiliation: Technical.

Sub-department

PAT-R4 Nerstrand Big Wood

Base pay

$54,174

Overtime

$888

Other pay

$216

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,277

Hire date

2023-05-22

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

16

Union / bargaining unit

Middle Management Association

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Rice

Alexa Smith holds the role of Nr Supervisor 2 Parks & Trails at Natural Resources Department within Pat-R4 Nerstrand Big Wood. Their tenure dates to 2023, about 2 years as a full-time employee. In 2025, their total compensation was $55,277. Union affiliation: Middle Management Association.

Sub-department

ECO WatersR3 South APP Staff

Base pay

$55,235

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,235

Hire date

2024-09-09

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

12

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Alexander Selle is a Hydrologist 2 at Natural Resources Department within Eco Watersr3 South App Staff. Their tenure dates to 2024, about a year, working full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $55,235. They are represented by MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

F&W Roving Crew-Reg 1

Base pay

$54,423

Overtime

$754

Other pay

$8

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,185

Hire date

2023-04-19

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

86

Union / bargaining unit

Craft, Maintenance, Labor

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Polk

Matthew Franklin is a Laborer Trades & Equipment at Natural Resources Department within F&W Roving Crew-Reg 1. Hired in 2023, they have about 2 years of service, working full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $55,185. Union affiliation: Craft, Maintenance, Labor.

Sub-department

OSD HR Operations

Base pay

$55,152

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,152

Hire date

2022-04-13

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

63

Union / bargaining unit

Confidential

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Jennifer Halim works as a Human Resources Technician 1 for Natural Resources Department within Osd HR Operations. Their tenure dates to 2022, about 3 years as a full-time employee. Jennifer earned $55,152 in 2025. They are represented by Confidential.

Sub-department

OSD HR Operations

Base pay

$52,923

Overtime

$11

Other pay

$2,166

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,099

Hire date

2024-06-10

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

63

Union / bargaining unit

Confidential

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Crystal Beyer works as a Human Resources Technician 1 for Natural Resources Department within Osd HR Operations. Hired in 2024, they have about a year of service as a full-time employee. Crystal earned $55,099 in 2025. They are represented by Confidential.

Sub-department

WL-R4 Nicollet Staff

Base pay

$54,334

Overtime

$449

Other pay

$260

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,043

Hire date

2005-03-10

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

65

Union / bargaining unit

Technical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Nicollet

Nicholas Hansen holds the role of Nr Technician Wildlife at Natural Resources Department within Wl-R4 Nicollet Staff. Their tenure dates to 2005, about 20 years as a full-time employee. In 2025, their total compensation was $55,043. Their bargaining unit is Technical.

Sub-department

FOR R2 Little Fork Staff

Base pay

$52,593

Overtime

$989

Other pay

$1,435

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,018

Hire date

2023-05-30

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

6

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Koochiching

Chad Wennerstrand works as a Nr Forestry Specialist for Natural Resources Department within For R2 Little Fork Staff. Their tenure dates to 2023, about 2 years as a full-time employee. Chad earned $55,018 in 2025. They are represented by MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

F&W Populations Program

Base pay

$55,017

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$55,017

Hire date

2024-06-05

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

61

Union / bargaining unit

Clerical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Crow Wing

Carolyn Conner holds the role of Office & Administrative Specialist Int at Natural Resources Department within F&W Populations Program. Hired in 2024, they have about a year of service as a full-time employee. In 2025, their total compensation was $55,017. Union affiliation: Clerical.

Sub-department

PAT-R3 Frontenac Asst

Base pay

$54,989

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$7

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,996

Hire date

2001-05-18

Employment type

Part-Time

Pay grade

86

Union / bargaining unit

Craft, Maintenance, Labor

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

0.9

Work county

Goodhue

Amy Poss holds the role of Laborer Trades & Equipment at Natural Resources Department within Pat-R3 Frontenac Assistant. Hired in 2001, they have about 24 years of service as a part-time, 0.9 FTE employee. In 2025, their total compensation was $54,996. They are represented by Craft, Maintenance, Labor.

Sub-department

F&W Big Game Program Staff

Base pay

$54,497

Overtime

$378

Other pay

$68

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,942

Hire date

2024-03-12

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

8

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Crow Wing

Amanda Temple holds the role of Nr Specialist Int Wl at Natural Resources Department within F&W Big Game Program Staff. They have served since 2024 (about a year) as a full-time employee. In 2025, their total compensation was $54,942. They are represented by MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

FOR R1 Park Rapids Asst Staff

Base pay

$39,054

Overtime

$12,470

Other pay

$3,377

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,901

Hire date

1996-05-04

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

60

Union / bargaining unit

Service

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Becker

At Natural Resources Department, Mark Palm serves as a Nr Forest Fire Resp Lead within For R1 Park Rapids Assistant Staff. They have served since 1996 (about 29 years), working full-time. Their 2025 pay totaled $54,901. Their bargaining unit is Service.

Sub-department

OSD OMB Accounts Payable

Base pay

$54,500

Overtime

$383

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,883

Hire date

2024-08-20

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

64

Union / bargaining unit

Technical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Jean Troska works as a Accounting Technician for Natural Resources Department within Osd Omb Accounts Payable. Hired in 2024, they have about a year of service as a full-time employee. Jean earned $54,883 in 2025. Union affiliation: Technical.

Sub-department

FOR R1 Warroad Paper

Base pay

$39,013

Overtime

$11,888

Other pay

$3,970

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,871

Hire date

2011-04-24

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

60

Union / bargaining unit

Service

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Roseau

Joseph Fish holds the role of Nr Forest Fire Resp Lead at Natural Resources Department within For R1 Warroad Paper. Hired in 2011, they have about 14 years of service as a full-time employee. In 2025, their total compensation was $54,871. Union affiliation: Service.

Sub-department

PAT-R4 Ft Ridgely Staff

Base pay

$52,643

Overtime

$2,141

Other pay

$83

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,868

Hire date

2007-05-30

Employment type

Part-Time

Pay grade

60

Union / bargaining unit

Service

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

0.9

Work county

Renville

At Natural Resources Department, Jacob Cummiskey serves as a Buildings & Grounds Worker within Pat-R4 Ft Ridgely Staff. Their tenure dates to 2007, about 18 years, working part-time, 0.9 FTE. Their 2025 pay totaled $54,868. Union affiliation: Service.

Sub-department

OSD MR Region 1 Staff

Base pay

$54,165

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$686

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,851

Hire date

1996-03-26

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

61

Union / bargaining unit

Clerical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Beltrami

Maxine Simonson works as a Office & Administrative Specialist Int for Natural Resources Department within Osd Mr Region 1 Staff. Hired in 1996, they have about 29 years of service as a full-time employee. Maxine earned $54,851 in 2025. Union affiliation: Clerical.

Sub-department

PAT D7 St Paul Staff

Base pay

$54,464

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$385

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,849

Hire date

2021-04-14

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

66

Union / bargaining unit

Technical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Carver

Tanner Chadderdon is a Nr Technician Parks & Trails at Natural Resources Department within Pat D7 St Paul Staff. Their tenure dates to 2021, about 4 years, working full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $54,849. Union affiliation: Technical.

Sub-department

ECO Waters Admin Unit

Base pay

$54,543

Overtime

$278

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,821

Hire date

2024-04-22

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

64

Union / bargaining unit

Clerical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Bridget Koeckeritz works as a Office & Administrative Specialist Senior for Natural Resources Department within Eco Waters Administrative Unit. Their tenure dates to 2024, about a year as a full-time employee. Bridget earned $54,821 in 2025. Union affiliation: Clerical.

Sub-department

Fish-R2 Staff

Base pay

$52,889

Overtime

$1,919

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,809

Hire date

2018-09-24

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

64

Union / bargaining unit

Clerical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Itasca

Kristi Kunz holds the role of Office & Administrative Specialist Senior at Natural Resources Department within Fish-R2 Staff. They have served since 2018 (about 7 years) as a full-time employee. In 2025, their total compensation was $54,809. Their bargaining unit is Clerical.

Sub-department

F&W Policy Planning Prog Staff

Base pay

$54,643

Overtime

$156

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,799

Hire date

2024-02-07

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

7

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Greta Brandt works as a Planner Intermediate for Natural Resources Department within F&W Policy Planning Program Staff. They have served since 2024 (about a year) as a full-time employee. Greta earned $54,799 in 2025. Union affiliation: MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

ECO Waters Field Mon Ops 3

Base pay

$54,786

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,786

Hire date

2024-06-26

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

9

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Becker

Kyle Percy holds the role of Hydrologist 1 at Natural Resources Department within Eco Waters Field Mon Ops 3. They have served since 2024 (about a year) as a full-time employee. In 2025, their total compensation was $54,786. Their bargaining unit is MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

WL-R4 Appleton Staff

Base pay

$54,128

Overtime

$599

Other pay

$23

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,749

Hire date

2022-05-02

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

6

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Chippewa

Allison Parker works as a Nr Specialist Wl for Natural Resources Department within Wl-R4 Appleton Staff. They have served since 2022 (about 3 years) as a full-time employee. Allison earned $54,749 in 2025. They are represented by MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

Deputy Comm Staff

Base pay

$54,674

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,674

Hire date

2021-11-03

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

67

Union / bargaining unit

Confidential

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

At Natural Resources Department, Lindsay Hatch serves as a Office & Administrative Specialist Principal within Deputy Community Staff. They have served since 2021 (about 4 years), working full-time. Their 2025 pay totaled $54,674. They are represented by Confidential.

Sub-department

Enforcement-Reg 4

Base pay

$54,674

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,674

Hire date

2021-09-01

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

64

Union / bargaining unit

Clerical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Brown

Brittany Sieg holds the role of Office & Administrative Specialist Senior at Natural Resources Department within Enforcement-Reg 4. They have served since 2021 (about 4 years) as a full-time employee. In 2025, their total compensation was $54,674. Union affiliation: Clerical.

Sub-department

L&M Reclam Research & Support

Base pay

$54,601

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,601

Hire date

2024-03-14

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

7

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

St Louis

At Natural Resources Department, Kathleen Bjergo serves as a Mineland Reclamation Specialist within L&M Reclam Research & Support. Hired in 2024, they have about a year of service, working full-time. Their 2025 pay totaled $54,601. They are represented by MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

OSD HR Operations

Base pay

$54,561

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,561

Hire date

2022-11-01

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

63

Union / bargaining unit

Confidential

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Anthony Orlando is a Human Resources Technician 1 at Natural Resources Department within Osd HR Operations. Their tenure dates to 2022, about 3 years, working full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $54,561. Their bargaining unit is Confidential.

Sub-department

PAT-CO Development Program

Base pay

$54,559

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,559

Hire date

1987-05-06

Employment type

Part-Time

Pay grade

17

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

0.5

Work county

Le Sueur

Scott Kelling is a Nr Program Consultant at Natural Resources Department within Pat-Co Development Program. Hired in 1987, they have about 38 years of service, working part-time, 0.5 FTE. 2025 total compensation came to $54,559. Union affiliation: MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

OSD OP R2 Bus Office Staff

Base pay

$54,557

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,557

Hire date

1993-06-21

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

7

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Barbara Swanson is a State Program Administrative Intermediate at Natural Resources Department within Osd Op R2 Bus Office Staff. Hired in 1993, they have about 32 years of service, working full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $54,557. Union affiliation: MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

Enforcement-Reg 4-District 16

Base pay

$43,388

Overtime

$8,424

Other pay

$2,743

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,556

Hire date

2021-12-23

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

7

Union / bargaining unit

MN Law Enforcement Assn

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

-

Jesse Drown holds the role of Nr Specialist 2 Co at Natural Resources Department within Enforcement-Reg 4-District 16. Their tenure dates to 2021, about 3 years as a full-time employee. In 2024, their total compensation was $54,556. They are represented by MN Law Enforcement Assn.

Sub-department

ECO Waters R3 LTRM Staff

Base pay

$54,528

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,528

Hire date

2021-06-01

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

6

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Wabasha

Stephanie Szura is a Nr Specialist Eco Services at Natural Resources Department within Eco Waters R3 Ltrm Staff. They have served since 2021 (about 4 years), working full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $54,528. They are represented by MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

ECO Waters County Bio Animals

Base pay

$54,528

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,528

Hire date

2022-03-28

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

6

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Rachel Kranz works as a Nr Specialist Eco Services for Natural Resources Department within Eco Waters County Bio Animals. Hired in 2022, they have about 3 years of service as a full-time employee. Rachel earned $54,528 in 2025. Their bargaining unit is MN Assoc of Professional Empl.

Sub-department

Reg Ops-Region 2 Staff

Base pay

$54,323

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$193

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,516

Hire date

2019-09-10

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

67

Union / bargaining unit

Clerical

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Itasca

Rachel Schindler works as a Office & Administrative Specialist Principal for Natural Resources Department within Reg Ops-Region 2 Staff. They have served since 2019 (about 6 years) as a full-time employee. Rachel earned $54,516 in 2025. Their bargaining unit is Clerical.

Sub-department

ECO Waters R3 ARM Staff

Base pay

$54,476

Overtime

$0

Other pay

$0

Benefits

$0

Total compensation

$54,476

Hire date

2023-03-20

Employment type

Full-Time

Pay grade

6

Union / bargaining unit

MN Assoc of Professional Empl

Pay basis

Hourly

Full-time equivalent (FTE)

1

Work county

Ramsey

Linnea Lopez is a Nr Specialist Eco Services at Natural Resources Department within Eco Waters R3 Arm Staff. They have served since 2023 (about 2 years), working full-time. 2025 total compensation came to $54,476. Their bargaining unit is MN Assoc of Professional Empl.